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wife with other men - ahhhrrrggghhh - If you are going to be swingers the first thing you need to do is set boundaries for each other, if you are worried she is going to something you may not agree with sit down first and talk about what is ok and what is not!!! You can both enjoy this life style and not have to worry about jealously for example only play together. Go to parties, have another couple over or go to there place, etc. If that would be easier for you then you both are there and both in the fun. To be in this lifestyle you MUST TRUST YOUR SPOUSE!! you can't look at this as cheating because you are both committed to each other you are just sharing you sexual lives with other to fulfill a need no one in this lifestyle is looking for a new life long love just friends and fun. Make sure you talk to each other and express why you are worried set limits you both are comfortable with!!!!! If you don't think you can over come being jealous this life style is not for you!!!

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Did this meet and greet already happen? I am looking for fun tonight. Newish to town and was in the ls prior to moving here.

patriot or not - pledge - I've been reading, with some interest, the pontifications and protestations on the issues of this post. Some talk about morals some about duty some about apothy of people. I 'll ask: What is worals? Are swingers moral if society finds it averant? Is this country based on good Christian principals? Is this current government or administration trying to turn this country into a theocracy? This ccountry was founded so that everyone should have the right to live their life in their own manner, to be free to pursue whatever they wish so long as it does not interfere with others rights and liberties, and to be happy in those rights. As for religion, here I go again quoting the father of our constitution, Thomas Jefferson said; "I have recently been examining all known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology." God's be damned, government be damned as well and if we do nothing to oppose bad government we are not patriotic, we are fools who will watch our country drown in it's own bile.. We can talk forever about what is and is not good but until we live what is good and moral, (morality is that principle which basically says "do no harm" like the doctors pledge) but until we apply true morality to our own lives and speak boldly to government which rules in fear and demogogery and to business which thinks that God is a dollar or a yen or any other form of currency, we will be be responsible for our own plight.... Just a thought or two... Since we do not study history or at least it's tennons we will be forced to repeat the mistakes made before....

Met someone you know at a lifestyle event - - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. There's really no easy way to explain, deflect, lie, or otherwise extricate yourself from that situation. Counting, just now in my head, it's happened to us no less than half a dozen times. Everyone from family members (Ms. Evil's cousin), friends of friends (BFF's of our former next door neighbors), business acquaintances/clients, you name it. It's always such an unexpected shock that we invariably handle it poorly. LOL ps- Happened again last night at a wedding, of all things! Not really a lifestyle event/party but plenty of swingers there and the implications were probably fairly obvious to anyone really paying attention.

Joking around with the wife - - I told him I would put a pineapple and if he removed it, I would put it again but upside down lol he actually liked it but it was bare so I added a little depth of a fallen pineapple.... mostly for fun, not necessarily to post a huge "we are swingers" sign.

Are we doing something wrong? - - Southernfox, Did you expect to put up a profile and then have couples knocking down your door? Swingers are people, just like everyone else, we have personal tastes, likes, dislikes, preferences, or desires. You are not going to be a perfect match to everybody, Do you remember what it was like to be a single guy looking? thats alot like swinging. You go out, meet people, put up the best fight you can, put your hook in the water and hope. Then go home alone 98% of the time. Lick your wounds, learn from your mistakes and get over it Your profile says you want to get out of the house, why not meet and greets? We have driven 4 hours from where we live to meet some cool new people at some of the secret desire parties. You are less than and hour away...if it doesn't work out, or it isn't fun..split, go get a movie and muchies and chalk it up. What do you have to lose? As for the women wanting your wife and not you...come on man, 98% of the women on this site are Bi or Bi-curious, if your looking for a girl for yourself look for the 2% of us that are straight. Or get a hooker, no strings there! Basically my advice to you is to put up or shut up, you will only get something out of this if you put effort into it. Nobody is going to chase you. P.S. To the ones who have said swingular doesnt work for them....we have tried other sites that didn't do it for us, for the same reason I imagine you don't have luck on this one. Most of the people on this site are from Ut, others are Nevada based, or New York, or wherever. Stick to one closer to home or do a google search and find one closer to home. Its not the site, its the people on it.

Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - We tell anyone who is a late night friend, ie: serious friend, vanilla or not that we have an alternative lifestyle. It has made things so much easier. Our vanilla friends are closer. We make it very clear that we don't have any interest in sex with them for concerns about ruining what is a already a good relationship. I am not talking, work vanillas, they don't need to know. I am talking about people with whom we go dancing or bar hopping. Why lie about who you really are? The whole reason for jumping the hurdle that is the "lifestyle" is to be free with who you really are. Then you are supposed to hide it with people who are supposed to really care about you? Nope. Because of this, it is really cute when we throw a party or get together. The vanillas spend the whole time excitedly trying to guess who the swingers are. Most of the time it doesn't take much to guess. This reminds me of what got us started on this course. We threw a mostly vanilla roller skating party with some vanilla friends. They invited a whole bunch of people and we invited a whole bunch of people. We invited 3 couples who were swingers who did not know or probably didn't care to hide what they were. The vanilla couple invited once swinger couple totally unaware that they were swingers. We got very outed that night. lol It went really well so it carried over as a "good idea". Piper

This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - want to thank everyone who put this event together and making it so special. This was our first time and certainly wont be our last. Everyone made us feel so welcome...we really had a blast even with the rain, lol! Thank you to everyone....don't be a stranger!

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Anyone know the password for tonight?

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