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AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

Age and desire - Is there a number that scares people away? - Age is nothing we have fb's anywhere from 25-52 it just depends on whether or not they can separate from Swingers and be friends too. I mean we like to swing but sometimes we just like to hang out but we find the young'uns are a little overzealous sometimes which can be annoying so we prefer the older crowd.

Finding sexy friends in Vegas - - Vegas fun spots for lifestyle: Swinger Clubs -
On-Premise: these are the lifestyle clubs in Vegas... 
Sea Mountain 'One Love Temple'. Opened in June 2017 as Las Vegas first and only lifestyle resort! They have awesome night parties, including a club where you can dance. No clothes needed here, couples & single girls only. About 10 mins from the Strip, an easy uber. Absolutely fantastic. 
Las Vegas Playroom (in what was the Couples Oasis house) is, as of July 2016, remodeling the venue and just started hosting parties. We like what they are doing, as they've already made a number of upgrades. They are trying to target a younger demographic and have quite a bit of work to get the vibe right (music, paint, furnishings, etc) but they are motivated and driven to make that happen. Fingers crossed, we're rooting for them! 
The Green Door. We have never been there but our friends say it would be there next pick, as they love the playrooms and it's very close to the Strip (just off Sahara). However be forwarned that solo (we won't say "single") guys are heavily marketed to so there will always be hordes of non-lifestyle-protocol-aware guys in the hallways, in the bar (no alcohol allowed due to city ordinances), and leering outside of the couples areas. If you’re a girl and into a lot of guys or just loves being an exhibitionist and knowing she's turning guys on who watch then she'll have a blast here; but if she's not then it can be awful for her. It's clean, just off the Strip and the parking lot is very safe. The crowd here starts late, usually after midnight. 
The Red Rooster is one of the oldest and most famous clubs in the world and used to be packed every weekend (we hear it's losing steam a bit). They also allow in solo guys, so keep that in mind. The crowd tends to be older, and they (refreshingly) make no apologies for who they are (not the place for the young-n-hot-pretty-crowd, definitely a good place for the majority who aren't that). And it's a LONG way from the Strip, so either rent a car or prepare for an expensive taxi/uber ride. They have an indoor pool, and a FANTASTIC food buffet that the owner cooks personally (they have a catering license, and it rocks). This place packs early, by 10:00pm there's a big crowd that tends to be older as there are lots of locals who have been loyal members for 20 years or more. And, of course, plenty of places to play.
There's also the Fantasy Swingers Club, and it's right next to the Green Door, a bit smaller and a lot quieter, often with only a few people there, but has a sexy vibe with fewer solo guys.

Other: There are LOTS of impromptu and other parties that pop up from time to time in Vegas, so keep an eye on the various lifestyle sites. Off-Premise Party -
Swingers Circle hosts a couples-only on-premise party on Thursdays. They book a hotel suite on or near the Strip, start early (you aren't allowed to arrive late), and it's all about playing. Since they promote on a number of sites and don't display their guestlist, it can be hit-or-miss as to whether you'll fit in or not, but from our friends experience it's absolutely worth the risk. They play a game that quickly gets everyone naked, and if you aren't feeling the vibe with the night’s group...there are no hard feelings for sneaking out (nobody will even notice). So it's worth the price of admission to see, and there's a good chance you'll have a blast. 
PurrfectLV at Caesar's Fizz Lounge is a weekly swingers meet & greet in the lounge. Very sexy vibe in a small, intimate venue, but not on premise so if you connect with some sexies then you'll need to head off on your own. It can be hit-or-miss, sometimes there's a big crowd, sometimes not, sometimes it's hot, sometimes it's not. Plus note that although they do allow solo guys, don't let that deter you as they are very chill and understand protocol. It's usually worth hitting even if just to see who's in town and then hooking up and heading out from there.

Nude Pools - Sea Mountain 'One Love Temple' Las Vegas - opened in late June 2017, Las Vegas finally has a 100% clothing optional , on-premise resort! It's a beautiful property located about 5 min's from the Strip and an easy Uber. Dewey and his wife (owners) are great hosts, and provide a sanctuary for couples and single girls (sorry guys, you'll need to find a date to go here) where you can be surrounded by like-minded friends and away from the hordes of vanilla's at the topless & club pools at the resorts. It isn't free and most think of it as pretty speedy. The last time we were there, we paid $200 per couple for the day & night. That’s after paying a $40 membership fee. The alcohol is free and so is lunch and all the snacks they provide throughout the day....but the cost per couple is less than a pair of lounge chairs at Bare or Moorea. Topless Swimming Pools - 
Leave Rehab, Wet Republic, Tao and other popular non-toptional (girls gotta keep their tops on) pools to the hordes of young vanillas paying $100/pp entry, getting drunk on $20 cocktails and having their ears blasted by music so loud it's impossible to have a conversation (but hey, they're vanillas, so they aren't talking to each other anyway). * Evolve, Swinging Saturdays at the Artisan pool (hosted until Labor Day, then re-opens in May) is THE only couples-only topless pool party in Vegas! Great (house) music, hot people, and you can get away with pretty much anything. They even have a play suite for everyone upstairs. And what about single guys who have a room at the hotel? They put 'em on a bus to the MGM and comp them into vanilla-land at Wet Republic, anything but allowing them into the Artisan Evolve party. 
Our other fav's are these 3 "toptional" pools: 
Bare Pool at Mirage (usually a hot crowd and we've randomly met other Lifestyle couples many times, always fun there)
Moorea at Mandalay (book a daybed) is gaining a bit more traction lately with lifestyle friendly folks. Not as hip as Bare, but a pretty good pool scene. Like most 'nilla topless pools, all the girls will be wearing their tops until one or two girls go topless, so the swinger's usually get things started and it's always funny to then watch tops start coming off around the pool.
Venus Pool at Caesar's(not free, but still fun and very swinger friendly), and
Artisan Hotel Pool (extremely swinger friendly, usually other lifestyle members are found lounging poolside). Massages -
Want some stress relief...plus? Well Chinatown is great if you're a guy, but they seem to be at a loss as to what to do when a girl shows up (either alone or as part of a couple). And of course there are tons of escort services in town, which are expensive and, well, you won't get the massage. Clubs -
The clubs most people are going to at the moment are the Drai's rooftop at the Cromwell, Marquee at Cosmo, XS at Wynn/Encore and Hakaasan at MGM (those are currently also the top 4 clubs in the world, as rated by numerous magazines). The after-hours club people hit is Drai's (opens at 4:00am) in the basement at the Commonwealth. 
NOTE, all clubs...and we do mean all...make their money selling "bottle service". There are, absolutely, literally, no places to sit in a club unless you pay for the table, we aren't kidding, really, which will run you anywhere from $600 and up (way up) depending upon the day and the location of the table in the club. Lounges -
Lounges are our personal preference, as we can meet up with people, have a conversation, and head to a hotel suite or houseparty. The sexiest lounges we like are:
For hanging out - Rose.Rabbit.Lie at Cosmo, Parasol Down (outside patio lakeside at the Wynn...our absolute favorite in town),and Chandalier Bar at the Cosmo (worth the trip, trust us).
For vanilla hunting - Vesper Bar and Chandalier Bar (both at the Cosmo), Lavo (at Palazzo), or pretty much any bar in Vegas where 'nilla's are looking to let go and embrace the "what happens" ethos. Shows -
There are so many great shows here! We will ignore the great vanilla shows (Jersey Boys, Mystere, etc) and just give our thoughts on the more risque performances...
1. Zumanity - the Mrs says, for the girls to remember to bring an extra pair of panties, as you'll get wet!
2. Absinthe - this show at Caesars has you starting in the beer garden and ending up in a smallish circus tent. The seating is close and upfront to the performers. The show includes bawdy, profane and damn funny skits with a lot of acrobatic sensual stuff. The irreverent anti-Cirque and the mister’s...hands-down favorite. 
3.. Fantasy - a standard from the Luxor that's been playing for a long time and is actually fantastic. The girls are good looking, the dancing and acts are great and the comedian makes it all worth while. Strip Clubs -
The little known truth about Las Vegas strip clubs is...well...they pretty much suck. You'd expect them to be wild and no-holds-barred a la New Orleans or Florida, but that sadly isn't the case as the "no touching" rule is strictly enforced at the more popular clubs (some of the less popular clubs, though, do let you get away with literally anything, including paid-sex in the back rooms, or so we've heard...but you didn't hear that from us). Some highlites (all are just our opinions, of course)...
1. Spearmint Rhino - the best club in town. Not because it's the best venue; it's okay, but it isn't Hustler or even Treasures in terms of design quality. But THIS is where the hottest girls from all over the world fly in to work. End of discussion as far as we're concerned. And yes, if/when you fall in love you'll learn that most of the girls "date", but don't take it too hard when you learn that the translation of that is "escort" and they aren't really in love with you...hey, girls gotta make a living.
2. Sapphire - billed as the largest strip club in the world. Maybe it is, and they do pack in the crowds, but honestly the girls tend to be on the heavier side and just aren't that hot.
3. Palomino - in North Las Vegas, the original, and still the only club that is 100% nude AND serves alcohol. This is one of the places where we've heard you can pretty much get away with anything you're willing to tip for.
4. Hustler - beautiful and amazing in design. Best to go when there is a party or special event, as that's when the hotter girls show up to work.
5. Others - there are sooooooo many strip clubs in Vegas, so check out other review sites for more info. Some are fun for very specific reasons, such Treasures and it's fantastic steak house. Just be forewarned, most of these small clubs will have few girls dancing (and usually not very attractive ones at that...not what you'd expect in Vegas).
FOR THE GIRLS (and bi-guys) - Male strippers! There's only one place to go - "OG", Olympic Gardens. The hot guys here can get away with a LOT more than their female counterparts in the other room, so private/VIP dances can get very frisky!
LOCAL'S TIP - READ THIS BEFORE GOING!!! In Vegas the strip clubs are required to "tip" the taxi or limo when they drop you off at the club; anywhere from $40 to $100 per person (yes, you read that right, per "person", not per "vehicle"). So DO NOT grab a cab, nor accept the "free" ride from the limo the doorman at your hotel is more than eager to get for you. Instead, call the strip club and they will send a free limo to pick you up AND you'll get free entry (they'll bend over backwards to avoid paying the taxi/limo fees).You'll still need to grab a taxi back to your hotel afterwards, but that's fine as the club doesn't have to pay for that. Hope this info helps...have fun in Sin City!

Game for Swingers - Has anyone heard of a new game for lifestyle couples called Titillation? - We have a game much like Monopoly. Its called pimps and hos its has several expansion card sets from swinger, truth or dare , drinking , charades , sick and twisted and striptease. Its a great icebreaker. Instead of property you buy hoes. upper class hoes cost more but pay more. Pro's- Lots of choices of cards to add in the mix. From mild to wild Cons- The complete set cost around $110.00 www.pimpsandhos.com P.S. I need to get my freak on... Please Help-Jeremy If you want to borrow my game or my wife let me know. Thanks and have a good evening

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - yeah I think west wendover would be a good idea, as Utah laws I'm sure wouldnt allow it (if it was an official business).

What is better? - hard body or curves - that is the question - [quote=IndecentDuo][quote=TJ69NAZ]Curves are awesome! As long as the curves don't turn into rolls I think that is the sexiest body type. Hubby asked me to "relax" my workouts years back when I was getting a little too toned in his opinion. He said he missed the softness I had before when we cuddled. Now that I'm 48 it's not an issue anymore.[/quote] Really? Rolls are a cardinal sin nowadays huh? Just FYI, everyone has rolls. Thin people, fit people, fat and in between people. It's skin. Just bc we've all been brainwashed by the western media to believe that thin is the ONLY form a beautiful body should take, doesn't mean that is truth. I am a bbw and a lot of swingers look down their noses at me in theory...yet I have met, played with and been pursued by thin, attractive people at various points in our swinging experience. It's not JUST about fitness. I find beauty in most forms of the human body, as many of us do. So for the OP, you are beautiful whichever way you feel most confident, regardless of your breast or butt size. Tho I will agree, squats are where it's at! ;) [/quote] Really? Opinions are a cardinal sin nowadays huh? Just FYI, everyone has opinions. I answered the OP's question in MY OPINION so unwad your panties. MrsTj

The stigma of single males - - [quote=RANDA4COUPLE][quote=OSTAR21]So why are single females called unicorn's when they don't even have a horn??? Seriously though, what is really frustrating being a single male is those people in the profile say they are looking for SM, SF, CPL, but are really not looking for single males and getting pissed off at us when it says they are seeking single males. Hey if you really don't want just any single male, then take the SM off your "seeking" then go and find the ones you want. At least we wouldn't be bothering you not knowing that you said you were seeking us, but really weren't. Take a minute and look at your own profile and if it says SM, and you are particular, or don't really want us, be king and remove it. Otherwise, those who are new to the site or lifestyle (been in it here for a long time) won't sour those of you who aren't looking for us, and those who are, may then get the emails, etc., knowing they are asking for them. Also if you are not interested in us have the kindness to at least replay and say no thanks. [/quote] this is the exact mentality we are talking about...we get 50 messages we might take five seriously...and yours we would not..no picture..and no that blurry thing is not a picture...we would peruse your profile and reject it immediately...if you are a single male on this site and hide your face or go without pictures it tells us 1 thing...this dude is probably not as single as his profile makes him sound...and this crap about being discreet because you are a professional doesnt get it either...if someones on here and sees your picture then they are doing the same damn thing you are...pretty unlikely they will out themselves in order to spite you.[/quote] When I was a Single Male in the Lifestyle, I did NOT have a public profile photo. But there were a number of them in my Private Album. Now that Geekgirl and I are a couple, there are no identifiable pics in our public album. Why? The majority of people who work in the education field have a morals clause in their contract. Being identified on a Swingers/Lifestyle site would be grounds for our immediate dismissal. As our profile states, we're more than willing to share our pics with others here - just ask. I assumed it was common knowledge that non members can find Swingular member public profile photos. Are we being OVERLY cautious? We'll take that chance. Are we missing out on opportunities by not having public photos? Yes, but I'd rather miss an opportunity to play than stand in an unemployment line.

Culture shock - - [quote=RICKYANDJESS]EVILDOERS you are boring!! this is not your facebook wall.. pathetic [/quote] Yup, boring AND pathetic. Hit the nail on the head there. You, on the other hand, are a total hoot as well as a gentleman and a scholar...unless this is the Mrs. and then of course you're a lady and you probably make terrific Jello salad or Toll House cookies or something. Thanks for the heads up though. I can't seem to keep Facebook and Swingular straight...prolly the reason all my family figured out we're swingers. Please feel free to inform me, whenever appropriate, when I offend your delicate sensibilities and harsh yer swingin' buzz by posting something you don't approve of.

Utah Meetup group - - So ive been asked to post my thoughts to get people more active and going to meet and greets. This is somewhat of a copy/paste of what ive said before: Events that have requirements or have an adventurous nature get alot of responses and lots of people going. One thing on these meet and greets is the incredibly shy new comers. The hard thing is getting people actually meeting and separating the cliques. So one thing ive thought about is having a meet up where everyone is required to introduce themselves to at least 10 new people before the meet and greet concludes. The greeting must include your name, age, years in the LS, what your looking for(another couple, single(m/f)), a fantasy, etc just stuff like that. For some telling a new couple you enjoy watching your spouse get fucked by someone you just met might seem awkward, but its less so when its instructed as part of a greeting. Plus Reminding everyone your all SWINGERS, this is the point anyways lol. Your not meeting a random person, your meeting a swinger whose there with intentions the same as you! Even like adding a fun after party thing like a Meet and Great Score that people get to post on the forums after the M&G which everyone gets to see just how involved people were and to improve it for the next one. Like every couple you meet gives you 10 points(max of 100 for 10 people), Get someones kik/phone number(50pts, max of 5), Play with someone you met from the event that night(350pts). The next day everyone can post their points an you get to see just how involved everyone is. You get 500pts you were fully involved. if your short anywhere then hey you get a chance to improve next time and it kinda adds a naughty adventure to things. But these are my thoughts

swinger clubs vegas - traveling to vegas swinger club - Red Rooster on the east side of town is a swingers club. Its pretty good but cround was much older than us, say 45 to 60 range but still good place.

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