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Free will versus playing fair. - - Criusers......... This is exactly why we don't really like the group things. Nobody knows what the boundaries are or if there are boundaries. There are lots of different scenarios as far as groups go. Sometimes it's anything goes. Sometimes it's anything goes with some couples but not others. Sometimes there are couples there who are not even swingers, and in most cases, you have to figure that out yourself..... ( that happened at our last party and she was the hottest woman there.) I don't know how long you have been doing this, but the lifestyle is a trip, huh? Never imagined it would be this difficult. But it's still loads of fun, both socially and sexually.

Vegas Next Week - - Anybody gonna be in Vegas next week? Gonna hit up our first Swingers club. If so hit us up, let's hang.

please help settle this debate - is she into us or not - [quote=EVILDOERS]I would say it depends. How much had she had to drink? FAR too many swingers who fancy themselves great white vanilla hunters don't take into account the effect that varying amounts of alcohol can have on a person's ability to make a rational decision whether or not to swing. All most all of us (at least I would hope) had the opportunity to think soberly and rationally about whether or not we wanted to enter this bizarre world of wife swapping. Engaging vanillas at a bar or on a cruise or at a beach resort where ostensibly alcohol is flowing freely takes away at least some of their ability to judge and IMHO their right to make their own sober rational decision about doing something that, let's admit it, the vast majority of society frowns upon. In fact, and I know this won't be a popular viewpoint, I don't think seducing a vanilla couple who is under the influence of alcohol or other drugs is that much different than some frat boys getting coeds drunk (or worse) and taking advantage of them sexually. We've declined numerous invitations over the years to help some asshole get his wife drunk and then all have our way with her because sober she would not even consider swinging. Not cool, in our opinion. [/quote] Wow prudes, how are some of us supposed to have any fun then? I suppose you frown on GHB as well? Is it not the Patriarch's right to what he wants with his property, especially if it's sister wife #1 who has the marriage license?

STD/sti - cautions - [quote=SIMPLEPLEASURES]We are at a complete loss as to why any single female on here would want anything to do with single males. That's where she went wrong [/quote] Yeah cuz married males are all that and a bag of chips. Really?!!? Just because some of them are total twatwaffles doesn't mean they all are. And I guarantee not all married males are eligible for sainthood. Marital status does not magically remove the ass from the asshole. Argue all you want about whether or not single males (or females for that matter) are truly swingers but to make a blanket statement like that makes you look pretty foolish or worse, petty.

Is it just us, or do you see it too? - - When we started down this road almost a year ago, we were quite worried. As we walked up to the restaurant to meet that very first couple, our hearts pounded as we wondered if we might be making the biggest mistake of our lives. We worried that perhaps "swingers" might amount to nothing more than a motley collection of pervs and freaks. The excitement of possibilities kept us going though, and we're so glad now that it did. We have met some of you, and although we find you all to be quite diverse, we seem to notice a running pattern of traits that most (perhaps all) of you hold in common. Although the sexual chemistry may or may not have been there for all four of us at the time, every one of you that we have met has seemed well above average to us, on a number of levels. Almost invariably, we walk away from meeting you holding you in high esteem. Self-confidence is a good illustration of our point. Most swingers seem self assured to a degree that other people often lack. There are many other such traits that we have noticed in swingers. Don't get us wrong. We know you have your flaws too, but we're painting with a broad brush here. So our question is simply this; Is it just us? Are we imagining this about all of you? Are we wrong and you're all really just schmucks, or, is it possible that swinging (speaking generally) attracts a different sort of person? We can hear what some of you are thinking right now, so let us state that we are just swingers like you. We conduct no research for anyone anywhere. We are simply surprised by what we think we've found. Therefore, after meeting so many who seem to be such extraordinary people, our curiosity is killing us. We no longer think that we are just, by pure coincidence, happening upon "all the good ones". Either you are generally who we perceive you to be, or we're just perceiving this whole thing incorrectly. We want to know if it's just us, or do you also see a pattern of traits among the swinging population (besides sex) that seem common to them? Can't wait to hear what you have to say about this.

An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - The problem we have noticed in Utah is that there seems to be far more wanna be swingers than actual swingers. There are quite a few who think if the girls kiss or show their titties then they have had a great swinging evening. To us it is a lifestyle not a fad & the cool in thing to pretend to do. We almost always avoid house parties & private parties for this reason. In fact we almost prefer finding new couples & singles in a regular club & converting them over to swinging over meeting playmates here because it's easier & usually less drama. Not to mention it helps weed out the wanna be's & the ones who used a 20 year old photo that was taken when they still had teeth or before they put on that extra 125 lbs.

clicks - - Gangster look haha? That's how I dress everyday, but when its time to clean up I do that as well.. I don't sag or anything, too old for that shit.. but love the hats and jerseys, the majority of swingers seem 40ish lol and no one likes how the next generation dresses .. as for cliques, everyone eventually makes a group of friends the get comfortable with or find people who fit the description u are looking for..

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Hardly sexual... - but occupying my thoughts anyway - Uh...FWIW I'm totally FOR making this a reality but I was kiddin' about the part that would in any way let anyone know that a group of swingers were behind any kind of altruistic effort to help feed the hungry. Don't get me wrong, for the most part swingers are awesome, wonderful, sharing (wink) people. But I doubt many people outside the lifestyle would want much to do with a group of people who fuck each others spouses recreationally regardless of how generous and charitable we are. Remember, most vanillas find everything about us no less than absolutely disgusting. So let's ALSO figure out a way to maybe make this happen...but not from a group of swingers. Maybe we can come up with something sort of tongue in cheek, an inside joke of some sort if you will, that won't 'out' us as a group of swingers. Maybe name it something like "Sharing, Caring Partners" or something along those lines. [em]Emo_12[/em] And on a completely unrelated note...GO UTES!

NewOrleans Clubs - Colette or Jasmine? - This post is great timing for us, we will be there next month! We might just have to check out Colette's! It's too bad we don't have a swingers club here in Utah! ;)

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