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First time? - - Well said by doers...I think its normal for different approaches to this as well. We've been members on here for quite sometime now, but we really havent done anything in this while...I guess we wouldn't call ourselves "swingers" either but we do enjoy going to the occasional party/event from time to time and catching up with old friends...both of you need that communication as one maybe "ready" whereas the other may not be...that being said...the one that feels "ready" should never be pushy...just take it slow...have fun..and in time, things will happen ;)

Permissive still requires permission. - Permissive still requires permission. - [quote=WildNomad]I could go on for days about the misogyny and objectification I have experienced in the swinger world. I'll try to be concise. Here's a quick guide on how to not be part of the problem at lifestyle events. (And when I say "you" below, I mean everyone) 1) Don't objectify women at every opportunity. If my tits are out, they are not out for you to stare at and make comments on every time you interact with me. They are certainly not out for everyone to touch without permission. They are out because I enjoy being naked. Even when I am naked I am still a strong feminist woman. I am not a toy for your to objectify. Treat me like a human. 2) Ask for what you want. Never presume. Do you want to hug, kiss, touch or fuck me? Ask. It's as simple as that. Here's an example. You: "Can I kiss you?" Me: "Hell yes" See? Easy. 3) If it's not a Hell Yes, it's a Fuck No. If all parties involved do not feel 100% Hell Yes! about the situation, it's a no. I see this a lot in one partner "taking one for the team". That is never ok. There is more but if everyone would do those 3, swinger events would be vastly improved. [/quote] Just because an actress or actor chooses (Hopefully it was their choice) to be nude on camera, and or act sexual, as in acting, does not mean they owe anyone anything, and they are not granting anyone permission to take sexual liberties with them. Same can be said for nudity, or sexual behavior at a swingers event. Or on a web site for what it's worth. We suppose, that if we get naked and behave sexually, in a semi public venue, that we cannot completely control who might see us. Granting permission to view, through proximity, does not grant permission to touch, or take any other sexual liberties.

AA Unicorn Visiting SLC - Looking for a good time - Not sure how much you know about Utah in general and swinging here specifically but, in case you didn't know, there are no on-premises swing clubs Utah. Also, we recently lost our "unofficial" off-premises club where many swingers would hang out and, as of yet, there isn't one specific club that has replaced it thus far. Your best bet might be to perv a bunch of profiles and see if there are any couples who strike your fancy and ask if any are available to hang out with on a school night. Good luck.

Keeping safe - Single females staying safe - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Hell, we've had guys write us and ask to meet them and their wives (without disclosing that we're swingers) and suggest that we get the wife really drunk and then have sex with them.[/quote]That is just plain awful. What a nightmarish scenario for everyone involved but the guy getting his rocks off watching his wife raped.[/quote] Didn't you hear? According to a legislator from Pleasant Grove it might not be rape if she's unconscious. [em]Emo_62[/em] [url=http://www.sltrib.com/news/2136918-155/utah-lawmaker-questions-whether-sex-with]Stupid Utah Lawmaker[/url][/quote] I didn't hear about that, probably b/c I was out buying a ticket to fly off this planet where I don't care to live w/ people like that pandering toolbag who's clearly never known someone close to him who's been sexually assaulted. There's no slippery slope here - if consent isn't enthusiastically given (context considered), there's no consent. ETA - [url=http://www.sltrib.com/news/2140556-155/utah-lawmaker-apologizes-after-comments-on]looks like he's been rapped on the knuckles well by others already.[/url] [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguinpookie/images/3/32/Grumpy_Cat_Good.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140306235947[/img]

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Posted By: XXXTASYX2 Reply posted on: Jan 8, 2008 - 1:39 pm AKLIM69 All I was saying is that a few bad experiences can make people NEVER want to try something. Also, there is the issue that if they are not really interested in it from square one, and there are a few bad experiences, the question people like that ask is "Why am I bothering?" Take our case for instance. We don't really desire for single males or females. Those we have played with in the past have come with baggage. So, why would we be interested in venturing into that territory? Baggage + lack of interest makes it a hard sell should some single male or female come looking.

Worlds Largest Sex Survey - Want to know what other people are thinking about sex? - This is one idea of what you may see. When was the last time you had sex? 17.0% Today! (last 24 hours) 31.7% This Week (last 7 days) 18.4% This Month (last 30 days) 16.2% This Year 16.7% Loooonger Than a Year Total Responses: 9019 Woo Hoo we are part of the 17% all the time, that is a good thing! Another one: Have you ever had a threesome? 74.8% No 15.7% Yes - 2 Girls, 1 Guy 6.8% Yes - 2 Guys, 1 Girl 1.5% Yes - 3 Guys 1.2% Yes - 3 Girls Total Responses: 9106 WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS ONE, SO MORE SWINGERS NEED TO ANSWER HERE - LOL - Too high of a percentage of NO's.

Odd pattern. - Why the interest/disinterest? - I'm not surprised to see mentions of homophobia and haste in filling out the profile as possible reasons; I hadn't thought of the male ego being so driven as to ignore disinterest from gay women. Yet that ego can't be reasoned w/ when the interested person's equipment matches the imagined ideal but the original birth certificate does not, even when reproduction is not on the table. As Terry pointed out above, every blastocyst starts out female and slightly less than half mutate into males as they become fetuses. AHARLEYCPL, not only is hate mail unwarranted, I'm personally pleased this discussion, for all its potential thorns, hasn't disintegrated into discriminatory ugliness like it would on some sites where the membership is more mainstream; I think it's b/c swingers already think outside the societal norms when it comes to expressing sexuality and have more of a 'live and let live if no one gets hurt' mentality. Being a swinger isn't about thoughtless sex, it's about even more thoughtful sex and this discussion shows that. :)

Alaska Swingers - - Finding men in Alaska should be easy since they outnumber the women about 15 to 1. Finding couples might be harder and single women will be nigh unto impossible.

Black Ring - Who has theirs and how have they caught on? - [quote=TEAKA]I saw a couple at scorez in Lehi and introduced myself. They seemed excited I knew.[/quote] We've had multiple occasions where people in the wild have introduced themselves to us as a result of the rings. Mostly when we were traveling (outside of Utah). It's really not a big thing in Utah, yet... but outside of the state it's catching on relatively quickly. http://www.okswing.com/index.php/en/easyblog/entry/black-ring-right-hand-how-to-find-swingers-in-public http://www.lifestylerings.com/faqs.html http://swapfu.blogspot.com/p/black-ring-right-hand.html?zx=7e2daf1b3e26bd4a ... Also worth noting... it's mostly catching on among the younger, "under 50s" crowd. The old-timers seem content to poo-poo any idea, concept, or trend that doesn't fit their definition of 'swinging'. (Including at least one person on here who spends, literally, every waking minute of his day trolling the forums making negative / sarcastic comments to anyone and everyone). If you don't like the trend, don't do it... but there's no reason to pretend it's not real. ALSO... Black Ring Society is going to be changing its name to SwingRing (mobile app name is changing as well... I'll start a separate thread on that). We think it's a more inclusive, shorter, and less confusing name..

Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - As someone who lives here, Couples is the best place. As BLUEYEDGIRL said, they do not allow single men, which is what happens at some of the other clubs and the guys are mostly out of towners lurking around and thinking they are going to get lucky and tend to be somewhat intrusive. Couples keeps the place clean, has expanded the number of private rooms and still has a big hottub inside, the pool out back, a small buffet included if you get a little hungry and a BYOB bar that has mixers, water and sodas for you. The dance floor has a small stage and pole, a good DJ and sound system. The pool table is in the lounge and they have some adult videos on the TV off the lounge that has a sofa. The group areas has a swing and they do have condoms if you need extras.