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The Demise of the Political Forum (PF) - By Jock U. Larity - No free we're tired of all the bullshit fearmongering propaganda from the same wingnut gun-toting (most can't shoot a gun to save their life) morons on the right. The same morons that torture, murder and kill, to including their own sons and daughters to get a fuckin redneck cowboy and his corporate pigs more oil, more power all while trying to jam their fucking bible down everyone's throat and rape the part of the constitution, especially that which disallows this shit and twisting the part that allows them to arm themselves to the teeth should anyone have anything to say about it. No lies there buddy. Do me a favor and keep following your fuckin redneck retard shepherds off the fuckin cliff, sing jesus loves all the children, cept the colored, all you want and I will continue pointing and laughing. As for this forum. This secluded section just proves that like our country enough "Conservative Swingers" (oxymoron) cried about individuality, free progressive thinking and freedoms of expression and speech that we had to be locked away hidden. You conservatives like to ignore anything that challenges your position. You said so yourself in another thread. The truth is, we're all drum banging here and no one wants to hear anyone else's opinion. What's the point?

Are you a Swinger or Liver? - - Sheesh.. first off- your newly coined term “liver” has a lot of problems.. first being it sounds like you’re talking about the body part… second.. things in life aren’t binary. The word AND is important.. you can be one thing AND another thing.. to try to act like “swingers” are somehow all easily placed in a passive aggressively titled box denoting they don’t know how to “live” is very logically, emotionally, philosophically false.

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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - "A former swinger and faithful Mormon reveals the dark side of the lifestyle and how it ruined her marriage." Hopefully it covers the good sides of the lifestyle too.

OUCH - Anyone caught swinging bu family or friends? - On a boat a boat, fishing, with my boss and his wife when she starts asking Raychel about our swingers profile her daughter saw on the internet. Aside from all the obvious problems like why is their HS aged daughter cruising swinger profiles; the other daughter lives in boston and would not know us from anywhere; why are they talking to each other about this; and can I swim to shore. So that's pretty odd. Bob P.S. We went for the Clintonesque defense of what do you mean by "swinging".

Swinger wife anklets? - Time again for one of those questions. - Thank you. That is how she approaches her anklets at present. We have heard conflicting reports about anklets. Most of the people we know, that bring up such things, seem to think that an anklet worn on the right ankle means a married woman is allowed to have sex with other men and or women depending on her preferences. Others seem to think it should be the left ankle. We know vanilla people, that are interested or intrigued by non monogamy, that all seem to think an anklet means something, especially in a bar or a dance club. They also seem to believe that Habits and Club 90 are places swingers go. If they see a woman dancing with someone other than her husband, and she has a anklet on, they feel or maybe hope, she may well be a swinger. Only a few have ever mentioned black rings. Interestingly enough, we believe, they bring the subject up, because they suspect we swing. Some of our friends know we swing and are really polite and non judgmental when they ask questions. We have had people tell us they have gone to Habits or Club 90 but have never run into us there. We think that we should revisit that some Friday nights. We don't want to disappoint. Saturday nights are usually already accounted for. If choosing a particular ankle, when in public, sends a sexy message that sparks a bit of playful, erotic fantasy between a curious and stable couple, then we are all up for sending that sort of message. It is how it starts for some of the hottest people.

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - The above comments are very interesting, and do promote thinking about how it all began. I grew up during the time when 'swapping' was just starting to catch hold. Swappers were married couples, and they did indeed swap partners. Single people were called 'swingers' at that time as they had many partners for sex. Basically singles did not have a steady relationhship with just one partner. An unmarried couple could be swingers, as they could go their separate ways at any time. A married couple did not easily have the option to go separate ways, so they remain swappers unless they got a divorce. Keep in mind that the two terms applied only to those that actively sought out new sex partners, and did not apply to the population in general. Over time, perhaps about 1965-1969, the word 'swapper' became a bit derogatory, so the married ones adopted the word 'swinger' as it seemed to be more lively and exciting sounding. Thus they moved into word usage territory of the singles. Today both singles and couples share the word. The meaning of words and their application change over time in the America language. As an example, the word 'Queer' changed to 'Fag' and later to 'Gay'. It took from about 1940 until about 1988 for the word 'queer' to evolve into 'gay'. It's still the same people, just a different word has been adopted that sounds more happy and exciting. To say a single man looking to get laid is not a swinger, but a single lady looking to get laid is a swinger is totally wrong. Both are either horney, or both are swingers. There can be no distinction between the two. So, where does that leave us? Today both singles and married couples share the word equally. That is, unless the American language is evolving again. Perhaps the word 'Humming Bird' (going from flower to flower for nectar) will become the singles new description.

Have you ever.... - - We agree with Evil. If they already made a conscious decision to be swingers and they are a bit tipsy then maybe but not if they are one or two sheets to the wind even if they are swingers. There are a few couples we have met where one half is always obviously good and drunk whenever you see them at a meet and greet. We find that disconcerting. We will not play with swingers in that condition. As for vanillas with a slight two beers drank at a relaxed pace or glass of wine buzz on, will we get naked? Maybe if in conversation it appears that they are not hung up about sex and play safe and the idea is not totally foreign to them. There are a lot of supposed vanillas, that belong to no sex sites, that once comfortable and friendly with you and once there is some understanding that we are all open minded adults, will admit that there was that one time with some good friends on vacation that they did a little swapping. So it depends really! There are people including couples that are actually open minded enough to have consensual sex with other people on occasion that just are not as on the prowl as we all may be. So it depends. We like to cruise all the couples hangouts where there is no alcohol involved looking for monogamous sorts that have never ever even considered swinging. Consequently we have been banned from ever going into the Maggie Moos in Sugar House and the nearby dollar movies will no longer let us in if we show up in trench coats.

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