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How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Communication (REAL communication) is the key but still it's not enough if someone really wants to stray or outright leave. There's been an interesting discussion on another swing site we're on about some of this topic and an old timer on there (who's now divorced) brought up something that we found interesting and that seems to be fairly ubiquitous in the lifestyle. It turns out that most women who have been in the lifestyle for a decent length of time have at one time or another (multiple times for Ms. Evil and some of the ladies we've known for some time) been told by a play partner (more often by a single male or even more often a vanilla guy...lot's of swingers seem to get a thrill out of vanilla hunting I guess) that if they were THEIR partner they would NEVER share them with another man. Think about that for a minute. With the way most women are raised and the messages society pounds into their heads about love, romance, fidelity, etc., how powerful are those words are. In fact let's take a little poll. Are there any women who've been in the lifestyle for, say, at least 5 years and play fairly frequently who have never had a guy tell them or insinuate that? Just curious.

Interracial Fun - Taboo Or Good Fun? - KRISTY>>> Sadly, I think that your original message and its intent was lost in translation. However I would agree that a theological approach is probably not the best route to justifying your position. Not that you have to, but you CHOSE to, and THAT opened you up to more criticism. JLEONARDTREESVC <<<------Are you serious? Are you listed in the yellow pages like this? \'Cause I have this big ass oak tree hangin\' over my awning that I need taken out... Just kidding dude. However, I was wondering what gave you the impression that we ALL know it is \"wrong\" as you stated in your post. Do we all KNOW it is WRONG? Strong statement. VOODUEXMAN>>> My Nigga! You went and got you a sista! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY bra! You see, I can talk to him like that now because we both black! Yeah dats right, you black now. You know dat sista workin the shit outta him! Yeah boy! Mad props to any white boy who can lock down a sista! We gonna work on your ebonics a little bit, you know...teach you how to akt black \'n shit. A little Shlitz Malt Licka fix you right up. Little 50 Cent in da ride. Dont worry \'bout dese haters son, me and T4REAL69 gotch\'ur back baby! LMFAO Oh for goodness sake...nothing is all that serious. We are swingers! Let\'s all swing! Luvbugs! (mR.) :h

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Looks like this site isn’t dead after all! Things are looking up.

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - It's unfortunate that you've had this happen to you, and apparently twice with the same couple, no less? While unfortunate, it's also par for the course. Perhaps one of the most cliche and over-used phrases we see appear on profiles is "drama free", and we always take that with a grain of salt. The truth is there is no such thing as 100% drama or issue-free couples. Even if they insist on their drama-free status, we also realize that we are all human, and these things are bound to happen from time to time. The key is not to find the ideal couple but to find the couple that deals with life (swinging) ideally. Find couples that are efficient and adept at dealing with issues between themselves, and are not so selfish to let things get as far as the bedroom before unresolved issues they have in regards to swinging arise during play. We've had a few situations like that...and they've always been deal-breakers for us. We simply don't have fun if we have to work that hard at making something happen. However, as a consequence, we've become very successful at filtering and weeding out those couples from the get-go. It's really not that challenging, because there is so much that you can read from people simply by observing them, their body language, how they interact with each other, how they compose themselves while you talk about a potential play dates with you, etc. Even if they're not inclined to be verbally honest up front with you two in a direct fashion, it's typically obvious in their behavior what their true expectations are. Asking direct questions about expectations has been mentioned and is always an excellent idea. We've found little things along the way that we take for granted as being non-issues for us are actually huge issues for other couples. Preferences for foreplay, whether or not kissing is allowed, and if so...kissing with tongue. What about oral, is that acceptable? You see, for us they are acceptable, but we must establish that they are with other couples. We've also found that more drama tends to be centered around the males in couples (sorry fellas). I'm not stereotyping here, but this has been our experience. We've had more than our fair share of guys that are ok with everything from girl on girl play, to my girl on him play, to both girls on him play, but once his gal plays one on one with another male besides him....oh Lord, the drama starts! Swinging has been one of the funnest decisions we've made, cuz we've made it that way, and we elect to avoid the drama at all costs, and that keeps things light and fresh. We know for every couple or bad experience we come across, there are 10 more good ones just around the corner. :) ~J~

Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - We are thinking of setting up a trip last weekend of September. Who would be interested?

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - As a couple we have played with single gentlemen many many times over the years. The only time that I can consider upleasent feelings or hate ever came up with any single is when I was told by him to please leave the room while he made it with my wife. We show that we do not play alone ( I do not mind watching her have fun at all ), and will often just watch. As couples the single gents must realize it may not be hate but protectiveness of our loved ones. It does only take one bad apple to ruin it for many. If the couple does not want to have contact with a single, they should just block them is all. Or just make it clear that both parties will always be present. No way do I mean to offend any single guy out there or single lady, both have the right to pursue their desires and pleasures.

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Anyone know the password for tonight?

Whats happend to us since.... - - We've met some really kick ass people, to include the author of this post. My wife and I are from Oregon where the scene is a little more mainstream and a little less "Hush Hush". With all of the that "Hippy Love" left over from the 60's, the "On-Premise" clubs and being so full of liberals, Oregon is a swingers paradise. The Ironic thing is, because of the religious backgrounds of a lot of the Native-Born Utahans (being told no and don't from birth), they are some of the most sexually explosive people I have ever encountered. It is, at times, breathtaking! In fact my wife and I went from, soft swap voyeurs to the full swing naughty things, because of the energy here. It is as though we struck gold in the desert. Don & Tami :D

Here's a lifestyle video - Cute Video - Very cute! That's the first swingers site that I've seen with something like this on it. What a marketing plan... 'Lish

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Not finding that group. Do we need a special invite? Secret handshake?