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BD/SM- Why are there no groups? - - Now this IS Terry. OMG, did I unleash a monster when I put a profile on Fetlife.com for her? Just kidding, she's an angel. Even if there might be just a touch of devil, or at least imp. Anyway, that didn't work out as well as hoped, like Evil said, most fetish groups don't swing, their events aren't usually about sex, just discussions, socializing, and demonstrations, with people doing scenes with the people they're already in a BDSM relationship with. And before someone asks me "well, why don't you just ...", it's simple. She's into some things I'm not and in that life, if you aren't really into something, even if you do know what to do and how to do it, you can't really be a very good Dom. Since the guy is supposed to make the girl happy, I did the Fetlife profile for her. The first thing a new person who's interested in some BDSM group will get told is "We don't swing", that he/she isn't going to be able to go to an event or even party and hook up with someone, that even if he/she gets invited to participate in someone's scene (it does happen occasionally) it isn't likely to culminate in actual sex. Which makes it difficult for someone who wants her BDSM to be part of actual sex. One thing though, Evil. The Fifty Shades of Gray phenomenon notwithstanding, BDSM is more secretive than swinging. Anyone who finds a swing event online can attend, unless he's a single male and it's a no single males thing. Not so with BDSM. Fetlife, for example, has more than one sub-group that sponsors events. You can find the events on the site, but you can't just go to them. You have to be sponsored by someone from that group. And not everyone in the group, people who themselves have been through the process and can attend the group's events without a sponsor, can even be a sponsor. There are always specific requirements and a process of some sort to go through to become approved to sponsor new people. There's still a stronger stigma attached to BDSM than there is to swinging, and the potential consequences to being outed are more severe, especially in a place like Utah. So the people are much more cautious than are swingers, and swingers don't exactly put up billboards ads on the highway. ~ Terry

Alice in Naughtyland??? - Where's the party? - Oh and btw, HUGE swing party tonight at the Sheraton downtown. Word is there are BUSLOADS of swingers that are there (drive down 5th South if you don't believe me) and checked in already in anticipation for the big orgy later this evening. Be there or be square!

Tooele swingers party - Our first swingers party - So after discussing it for a bit with my wife weve decided wed like to try and host a swingers party here in tooele. Now ideally wed like to primarily focus on playing with other tooele couples. This invite also extends to those outside this area so long as they can make the drive. So for those interested or want details and what have you. Feel to join the tooelecouplesfun in the kik pubic groups or speak to us directly dm devilfox187 and we can talk. As a warning couples are preferred and will come first followed by single females and then single males. Im sure we will have a few of each but as this will be at our home we will cut it off at a point. Apologies on that and hope to hear from some fun swingers in and surrounding tooele, lets have fun ;-)

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Hello, I have a small penny to put into this. Don Juan, you are very wrong. People like u that say I pay my taxes that pay your wages. Guess what, for the past 17 years I've been paying taxes too. Just because our pay comes out of taxes doesn't make u my boss. Teachers, Soldiers, Sailors, Police, Firemen, EMT's. We all pay taxes. And too bad to say, Police, Soldiers, Sailors, EMT's, and Marines don't have a choice on who we protect or save. Memorial day is to remind the public to remember those that fell in the line of duty. Those that gave the greatest sacrafice for this country. It doesn't matter what war, or the reason. They served this country and lost their life doing it. It shows in all the military's core values. Honor is always first. So honor the fallen, don't disgrace them.

Moving to Utah - - [quote=PEGBUNDY]wow! such mis-information - look at the stats of property evals and such - for the love of Buddha... one can make an intelligent assessment based on fact.[/quote] She is pretty close to correct. I have lived elsewhere but I like Utah. It does have its quirks but so does everywhere else. Life is what you make of it. There are areas with problems, mostly socio-economic in nature. Poor areas have more crime as a rule. Thus many of the older areas have higher rates of crime and problems in school but not all. 55 to 60 percent of the people in Salt Lake and Davis counties are non-LDS. However since the LDS are evangelistic in nature they have a tendency to want you to come to church. Most have gotten past the idea that letting their children play with non member children is a problem. Once they know you are not interested in joining they tend to leave you alone if you wish. But there are lots of good LDS and Non LDS neighbors. Work with a realtor and find an area in your price range where there are other children close to yours in age. On the north of SLC, Bountiful through Layton will be more rural as will Harriman and daybreak areas to the South West. There are a lot of nice new homes in the south west corner of Salt Lake County. The east bench tends to be more money but not always. In Utah property taxes pay for schools. The Provo/Orem area does have more LDS folks by percentage but not necessarily fewer swingers.

Gloryhole - Any glory holes in northern utah? - Well, I'm one who's never been there, either. And, as far as I know, I'm not a Mormon, Muslim, stripper, or fire hydrant. And the only boobs around here are the wife's. And I rather doubt I ever will, even though it does seem to have a rep as a hangout for swingers. In the first place, it seems (could be wrong here) that most public groupings of swingers are 90% younger people. Nothing against young people, just that I don't expect them to be interested in me. That 29 year old in Pocatello a few weeks back was just the exception that proves the rule. Second, living in Ogden, and with our weird schedules, it'd be pretty hard for the two of us to get down there at the same time, and I've found that being a single guy in a crowd of swingers is, at best, uncomfortable.

Yahoo name and status - - Most the swingers we have meet use yahoo to talk and such quite regularly. COnsidering the chat room here is empty and the instant messenger isnt that great. ANy way in the profiles we could have a spot for thier yahoo anmd if the are on your frined list and maybe even a small little status icon for when they are online.

How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Communication (REAL communication) is the key but still it's not enough if someone really wants to stray or outright leave. There's been an interesting discussion on another swing site we're on about some of this topic and an old timer on there (who's now divorced) brought up something that we found interesting and that seems to be fairly ubiquitous in the lifestyle. It turns out that most women who have been in the lifestyle for a decent length of time have at one time or another (multiple times for Ms. Evil and some of the ladies we've known for some time) been told by a play partner (more often by a single male or even more often a vanilla guy...lot's of swingers seem to get a thrill out of vanilla hunting I guess) that if they were THEIR partner they would NEVER share them with another man. Think about that for a minute. With the way most women are raised and the messages society pounds into their heads about love, romance, fidelity, etc., how powerful are those words are. In fact let's take a little poll. Are there any women who've been in the lifestyle for, say, at least 5 years and play fairly frequently who have never had a guy tell them or insinuate that? Just curious.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - i would love to thank all who support thier military members! as a sailor in the united states navy and have been for 18 years i wouldn't trade anything for the things i have done during my naval career! not only does the military protect our country wew also do other things that people don't see or hear. we have gone to all parts of the world and we help the people of that country. i hvae been to very poor countries and we go there with supplies and we help re build thier cities. i have been on many humanitarian operations. i would also like to say a prayer for all our military members who are ofer seas and for all of those military members who have fallen for our country. and i'm glad to hear that they are sending up a bill to stop protesters at military funerals. i really can't believe that there are people out there who are happy about fallen soldiers. just remember everyone in our military are people who have joined by their own choice to defend our great country not like other countries where it is mandatory to serve in the military. i work at navy basic training (bootcamp) and i see these 18 year old's who have decided to join and do something for thier country. i know alot of you do not support the war but i'm not asking you to support the war but to support the men and women of our military!! well i guess that is all. i hope you all have a great memorial day weekend!!

New Yahoo Group for the April 2011 Swingers Takeover Cruise - Yahoo Group for info. and discussion - We have started a Yahoo group for the April 2011 Swingers Takeover Cruise. This is a group for people going on the cruise or interested in going on the cruise to get to know each other (from this site as well as other swingers sites) before the cruise, ask/answer questions, and participate in general discussion. We would love to see more members join and contribute. Please do NOT post any advertisements or commercial promotions there. This isn't what the group is for and they will be removed. We are not affiliated with the cruise organizers in any way and do not benefit from administering this Yahoo group. Unless you count meeting more sexy people. The group address is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/April2010SwingersCruiseTakeover Hope to see you all join. Shawn and Amy