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The unbearable burden of proof. - Congratulations! You have an opinion. Why does everybody else have to agree with it? - Well, this certainly seems like a 'diverted extension' to me. But, since you did ask (and publicly), here goes: People often tell others what they've done, to demonstrate that they have a certain amount of experience doing it. Simple enough. And, in remarkable contrast to your opinion, it's not necessarily to sound intelligent or to give credence to an outrageous postulations. Sometimes they actually know what they're talking about. Unfortunately, you can't assume that just because someone talks about their experience, they really don't know anything. As to your comment concerning years of experience...(and you immediately zero in on computers...hmmm...wonder what that's about?) 1. As T4REAL capably put it, the kid from college has 'book smarts', but often lacks the real-world experience to make that training useful. Give me the vet every time - and if you listen, you'll find many who will echo that. Probably a majority. Why? Because the vet's not only seen more real problems, but they've been involved in more real answers. I recall a quote along the lines of "The biggest fault of youth is inexperience". While the young grad *cannot* have the benefit of experience the vet does, it *is* possible the vet can have the experience and the (recent) academic exposure, as well. 2. My mom - an educator herself, with degrees in all sorts of stuff, told me once, "I went to college to learn what I didn't know". (Little play on words, there - she was a languistics teacher). What she meant was that, beyond high school is another type of learning - broad and still detailed. You really begin to realize how little you actually know about things when you're exposed to further education. You gain an advanced perspective, which in turn makes you realize you know diddly, in the grand scheme of things. (Happy Mother's Day, Mom) 3. "Any more than 5 years of doing something allows a person sufficient enough time to become calcified into a single-mindedness that allows the world to pass you by anonymously." Nice pile of words...but, sure - it does 'allow...sufficient time' - but, again, it doesn't guarantee anything. If a person does anything for *any* length of time, and doesn't work to keep current, they will fall behind what is current. But you have little way of knowing how current people are, just based on some post on an Internet swingers site. Five years of doing something doesn't automatically mean someone's fallen behind, either. And the 62.5% of all statistics you cite? Well, doesn't that mean 37.5% are completely legit? (No matter the fictitious percentage *you* make your point with, it's complement will always oppose you). Again, trouble here is you have no way of knowing whether a given citation is accurate or not - but you can't just assume they're all wrong. Again, as in our recent discussion elsewhere - I put my opinion out there, and I have no problem letting others read and decide for themselves. Some people (*ahem*) seem so interested in contradicting others, they get far, far away from the matter at hand. You may find it interesting to know, I'm not really formally educated much beyond high school and military technical training; I hold no degrees, and very few certifications, proper. What I know about PC's I've learned almost entirely on my own. To be honest, I'd prefer a guy who learned because he really had passion enough to learn on his own. This is one reason I have so many machines at home...it's a hobby, but it's also a huge test bed; a training apparatus. And I've been training for over 25 years (sorry, I'm sure you hate me saying that). On the other hand, with no more education and certificates than I have, I did actually run a reasonably successful business for a while. I've managed to support my family at a level *well* beyond the means you'd expect from my education alone. So, it's possible that I do know what I'm talking about, although I don't expect you'll ever acknowledge that. It's OK, I don't really require your acknowledgement. I do realize I'm making a few assumptions here myself. While this isn't necessarily about me, it damn sure smacks of it; not at all subtle of you. Still, I've tried to indulge you, without attacking you or being insulting. I hope you learn what there is to know from the responses to your post. And T4real - excellent points!

Mobile app - There really needs to be and easier way. - [quote=MINDYPINDY][quote=JUST_HORNY1]I think an app would be great. I also this it would be a cool idea to put a "Swinger in the area" function on it. That way people can register with their cell phone on the site and using their GPS it will alert you when you are out and about or in the clubs if other swingers are close by. Of course you would be able to turn this off and on from your phone in case you really don't want people to find you at a given time. I think this would be an easier way then bracelets to determine if people around are in fact swingers. Just a thought.[/quote] Brilliant![/quote] Actually, this idea has already been successfully implemented in a slightly different context. grindr.com has been offering precisely this functionality for a gay demographic. Here is an interesting article about their current plan to broaden their market: [url=http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/07/01/grindr_new_project_amicus_interview/index.html ]http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/07/01/grindr_new_project_amicus_interview/index.html[/url]

Swingers in the Mountains - - Is there really a swinger's convention in Alta right now???

Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - We would not go for that. And a couple with whom we play did that for awhile and it damned near wrecked their marriage. What you are talking about is very close to just plain cheating. Successful couples, swingers or vanilla, are generally inward looking, looking at one another to the exclusion of the world or back to back facing the world together. From our point of view, at least, swinging is merely an extension of sex for fun in which other people take the place of toys. We don\'t for one moment forget that they are people and not actually toys but in termns of our own relationship they are peripheral though they may also be good friends. To split as a couple so that each may go his or her own way later to regale the other with his or her exploits doesn\'t work. I don\'t want my wife to tell me about her antics with another man. I want to see her with another man.

Eastern Idaho couple looking to meet couples. - - Charleys on Saturday night..... lots o swingers there:) We used to host meet n greets here in Pocatello... there are a ton of peeps here. every one is kinda shy and very busy... esp this time of year. Good luck!

cuckold couple - Just curious - Cuckolding usually refers to a humiliation element - a woman is with another man while husband or bf gets off on being shamed, humiliated, knowing she is with someone else, hearing how much better or bigger they were, etc. It's fetish that some enjoy. Not something I would enjoy personally. There's also 'hotwife', which is more where the man enjoys seeing or hearing about her with other men, seeing her pleasure, seeing how desirable she is, aroused by the sight or hearing about it more from pride and appreciation of her sexuality, beauty and pleasure. This can be at different levels - from merely bragging about a sexy wife and having men acknowledge that, to her flirting and teasing other men but always coming back to him, to minor or major sexual adventures. 'Cuckolding' is usually seen with a derogatory and humiliating element as a fetish, while 'hotwife' is pridefully showing off or sharing. Although, both terms are used interchangeably at times, they have a different connotation. There's also cuckquean - a woman who enjoys her man being with other women coupled with derogatory or humiliating elements. There's probably a male version of 'hotwife' - 'sexyhusband'? - but I'm not aware of any particular term that's popular. Personally, I get the hotwife/sexyhusband idea much better. We both take pride knowing we're desirable to others and yet committed to each other. That's probably the general feeling most swingers have. Cuckold/cuckquean isn't a necessarily a bad thing (if both are into it), it works for some people, but many find the humiliation element not enticing.

Any advice? - Recent birthday brings changes..... - So...having just recently turned 93 years of age, I have a few questions. 1. I enjoy the meet and greets but thinking it is going to be more and more difficult to find a "parking" spot for my walker when I'm out "break" dancing. 2. Are swingers really kind enough to help me up off the dance floor after I "break" something, and get tired of "peeking up skirts?" 3. What are the chances of a pretty girl actually getting close enough to me to allow such a peek? And, finally... 4. Is there ANY real chance I'm still gonna get any "action" here? I have lots of popcycle sticks and rubber bands..so that isn't an issue. I have a hot 42 year old wife to reward anyone that helps.... Ahhh..so many concerns...and questions. Maybe it's just time to "hang up the spats" and stick with the nurses in the ER for the extra curricular stuff.... ~Mr TiffnD~

Is HABITS still the place to go? - - Habits: Pros: Great music, food delish, cool/friendly staff. Cons: Drinks pricey/watered down, music too loud, "dress code", popular hangout with self proclaimed elite swingers. Club 48: Pros: Drinks great, music at reasonable level, relaxed atmosphere. Cons: Food sucks, understaffed, sometimes music sucks too. Northern Exposure: Pros: Private room with private smoking area, some drinks good, music at reasonable level, music ok. Cons: Some drinks pricey/watered down and they seem to run out of their "specials" quickly, food sucks too, staff really busy (altho they are friendly).

Anti-rant!!!! - What makes you go wild that you love?!? - The people and especially the parties. Most couples get boring and slow, would rather sit in their home and rot rather then have fun, party, and meet more energetic like minded perverts... like us. "Swingers" like to have fun, they are usually good conversation, and active. Not to mention a lot less stupid drama (except for the singular forums). Life is short, we intend to live it up. Hell if the Mormons were this much fun we would probably wear the jammies and try not to laugh out loud during seminary. ...and getting naked with your hot wives isn't half bad either.

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